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In fairness to those we name and shame, we invite your comments on our decisions and reasons for the way we have dealt with these people. You may contact us either by email or you can comment on our Facebook site.Thank You
What happened to Victor?
I Mr Mark Hinton of Ullswater avenue, Warrington, whose own bitch had just had a litter of puppies. I spoke with this gentleman who assured me that he could undertake the re-training of Victor, that his male dog was going to his mother's for the winter and that as the litter of pups was due to go to their new homes, he would have the time to devote himself to Victor's rehabilitation. In the interim he said that he had bought and installed an outside kennel for Victor. Something that he was never asked to do. I spoke with Mr Hinton once Victor had arrived and he confirmed that Victor was feisty but also said that within a very short space of time, the dog wagged its tail when he approached and would sit. As always, I told him, that if he had any problems, to ring me. On Friday 11 th November I received a call from Mr Hinton telling me that a neighbour's dog had broken into his property and that Victor had subsequently dug a 2/3 ft hole under the kennel and then attacked the dog (a Staffordshire bull terrier). I explained the legal ramifications and noted to Mr Hinton, that to have dug such a huge hole would have taken hours and that I could only assume that the staffie had been baiting him for some time. Victors history had only shown aggression to humans, never to other dogs. At no point did Mr Hinton ask me to remove Victor or say that he was unable to cope. The following day I received a panic telephone call from the rescue that had previously taken Victor in, stating that the previous owners had been contacted by Warrington dog warden, to say that they had picked up Victor and that he was being taken to Cheshire dogs home. Mr Hinton was unaware that Victor was micro-chipped. At no time did Mr Hinton try to contact me and despite repeatedly trying to contact him, he simply did not answer my calls. There are two versions of how Victor escaped. 1: That he dug his way out of the kennel? 2: That whilst being walked on the Saturday. for some reason his lead had snapped and that Victor had' tanked off' leaving Mr Hinton holding a broken lead? There was no explanation as to what had caused Victor to suddenly pull so hard that he could snap a lead? Interestingly, I have spoken with the dog warden who actually picked him up from a gentleman who said he had ‘found' him and this warden states that the dog had no collar or lead other than the one which this ‘passer by' had placed on him prior to contacting the dog warden? Since this episode I have only received one communication from Mr Hinton in the form of a text message. This is reproduced here in full: “Roma if u intend to slander me on fb I will go to the police I tried my best with Victor. U gave me no support or money or food or any help and u sayin apartly bout next doors dog I will pass ur number over also I will be calling the police over u slandering me and nail was so rude on the phone u have only heard 1 side of the story”
My post on FB was that I had been very, very badly let down, that Victor was now in Council kennels and could somebody come forward to foster him. I had stated that I was very, very badly let down by someone who had promised to take care and be responsible for this dog. Victor was also badly let down. He is, after all a dog and therefore needs a ‘responsible' person to see that no harm comes to him and that he does no harm. I may have only heard one side of the story, but in view of Mr Hinton's failure to respond to my calls, I have no other alternative? Thankfully Victor is safe and is soon to go into foster care with somebody who understands the responsibility of taking on a dog such as him.
As always, I am willing to publish Mr Hinton's version of events. *******************************
Since placing this onto the website the RSPCA in Hull were told via 'head Office' that Gina would be able to adopt Pheobe. We found out that Pheobe was a cruelty case and like Hatty had led a very sad life. At no point did Hull branch of the RSPCA contact Gina, despite various emails concerning her care. When finally Gina was given the go-ahead to re-home her by Nigel Yeo, the person willing to take Pheobe was finally contacted by Hull branch to say; that they had put her to sleep !! I can not find the words to express my disgust ; and in my heart I beleive that Pheobe was destroyed rather than,'give in' to Gina re-homing her. She had already been operated on for cancer and at ten was being offered the first true love and comfort after months in kennels. Pheobe died alone. Just another number...my heart aches for her... During Gina's last conversation with Mike Hogg and Nigel Yeo stated that the heirachy of the RSPCA had not realised how 'out of touch' they were with what goes on, on the ground with shelters that bear their name. What a sad state of affairs when these people are paid so much. Salaries that come from money donated by people like you to help animals. The grass roots of any organisation, is the foundation and as such should be as one with the levels upwards. This is not the first and sadly won't be the last tragedy that the RSPCA are guilty of. It's TIME for those in places of authority to start shaking up the shelters that supposedly are there to help, injured, unwanted and abandoned animals and have the title of Royal Society of Prevention Of Cruelty to Animals over their doors. What happens now in 'some' shelters just isn't how it is supposed to be.....
There is a nine year old shar pei in RSPCA kennels in Hull. As we all know, this is a good age for pei's and this particular pei has just been operated on to remove cancer. She's old, lonely and as the ad says, “has been in kennels some time”. Gina, our Scottish representative phoned Hull and offered to give her the loving retirement she deserves. The first hurdle was that the re-homing centre said she could not live with other female pei's (Gina has 3) because, as we all knew, female shar pei's can't live together??????????? After protestations they finally agreed to send a representative of the SSPCA to home check her. Two hurdles cleared. They then told Gina that she had to do the eight hour journey to meet the dog, with all four of her dogs, so they could all meet. Gina pointed out that driving four dogs, that distance and then returning with her, squashed in a car with four dogs that she doesn't know, would be very stressful for ALL dogs involved. Gina offered references from me, her vet, the SSPCA, boxer rescue and customer testimonials; (Gina runs a day care centre for dogs) to show that she was very, very experienced and knowledgeable on shar pei as well as other breeds. That she has, over the years, handled, fostered, and cared for innumerable dogs and could surmount any teething problems that integrating this old lady into her pack, could throw at her. She was told, NO! Rules were rules and as that is the way they do things, it's virtually set in stone! Gina is not one to take things laying down and as politely as possible went through her credentials again, explaining that she could offer this old girl the love, dignity, comfort and peace that she should have in her latter years for whatever time she had left. NO….rules are rules. At a push they may allow her to make three trips to the home, ferrying dogs backwards and forwards for seven hours at a time, (we ALL know the cost of diesel?) so that they could meet this pei, at which time they would then decide whether Gina may be able to pay the fee of £100 to take home a dog that may only have months to live! The money is not an issue. The stress these ‘rules' would cause to Gina's own dogs and the pei in question is immeasurable. Kennels, with their smell of fear and despair are hardly the right environment to introduce animals who have never met; and to expect a dog to meet four others enmasse after such a long journey, when they need exercise and are stressed, is ridiculous! Would it not be much kinder to allow Gina to take her home, allow her to find her ‘place' and then introduce her own dogs to her slowly and carefully? As I said, Gina doesn't take things lying down and phone calls and emails have been flying backwards and forwards. Managers are in meetings or unavailable. Certain staff were rude and awkward. Twice Gina had the telephone put down on her while she was speaking: one being Amanda the assistant manger of Hull and the other a ‘Tracy' at the Advice team at RSPCA head office. The stink that Gina is now kicking up can be smelt here in Somerset!!!
In fairness, the last person to feel the lash of Gina's tongue is a lady called Juliana Meila who has asked that she put the sequence of events in writing and has promised to investigate the matter….however, I feel sure that the emphasis will be on the way Gina has been treated by staff from the RSPCA, rather than allowing Phoebe, a sad, poorly, lonely dog, the loving home with Gina that she was offered? If you have anything to say on the piece above, please feel free to email me your comments and I will happily post them here. Also the RSPCA do have the right of reply and I promise to publish, in full their explanation of these events. Of course every organisation has rules. We do. However sometimes there has to be an exception to the rules. The very nature of organisations pledged to prevent pain and suffering to animals; means we have to look at every case individually where possible. Now that the RSPCA has been alerted to Phoebe's plight, let's hope they look professionally and kindly at her circumstances and allow her the love and comfort of a permanent retirement home with Gina? see above 18 th August 2011-10-24 Dear Madam 23 rd August Dear Gina,
Dear Gina 24 th August Sally
Dear Gina Response: Sorry Sally, 24 th August Dear Mrs McCallum Further to our telephone conversation I write to confirm the following: - 28 th August Dear Gina, 7 th September Hi Sally
Thursday, October 13, 2011 FollowA MOTHER and daughter who were found to be keeping more than 60 animals have admitted 12 charges of cruelty. Kindred Hummer, 47, and Lauren Stead, 22, were prosecuted by the RSPCA after inspectors discovered the huge number of animals, including a grey squirrel known as Arnold, in their home. They pleaded guilty to three charges relating to the welfare of the animals in May, and admitted a further nine offences at Beverley Magistrates' Court yesterday. The pair, of Grimston Road in Anlaby, pleaded not guilty to four further charges, which were then dismissed. T Thursday, October 13, 2011 FollowA MOTHER and daughter who were found to be keeping more than 60 animals have admitted 12 charges of cruelty. Kindred Hummer, 47, and Lauren Stead, 22, were prosecuted by the RSPCA after inspectors discovered the huge number of animals, including a grey squirrel known as Arnold, in their home.
They pleaded guilty to three charges relating to the welfare of the animals in May, and admitted a further nine offences at Beverley Magistrates' Court yesterday. The pair, of Grimston Road in Anlaby, pleaded not guilty to four further charges, which were then dismissed. Three of the charges Ms Hummer and Ms Stead have admitted related to a female Shar Pei dog called Phoebe. The pair admitted causing unnecessary suffering to Phoebe, a protected animal under the Animal Welfare Act 2006, by failing to provide veterinary care for her skin disease, bilateral ear infection and conjunctivitis. The defendants also admitted failing to provide a constant supply of fresh drinking water for 45 cats and not addressing the poor condition and weight loss of various cats. Two further charges related to a cream and black pug called Alfie, with the pair failing to provide veterinary care for his skin condition, eye disease and prolapsed eye. The final charge the pair both pleaded guilty to was causing unnecessary suffering to a female bulldog called Jenny by failing to provide veterinary care for her bilateral skin infection. Ms Stead also pleaded guilty to failing to maintain the appropriate body condition of a black and cream cat called Sunny, a brown and cream cat called Francine and a tabby cat called Claudia. Ms Hummer admitted failing to maintain the appropriate body condition of another cat.Ms Hummer and Ms Stead previously admitted failing to seek treatment for Jenny's ingrown toenail. They also admitted two charges of causing unnecessary suffering to 41 cats. In an RSPCA raid in August last year, officers discovered more than 50 cats and kittens in the Hummers' three-bedroom semi-detached home.Ispectors also found ten dogs and a grey squirrel. The cost of boarding and veterinary care of the animals found in the raid is thought to have run into tens of thousands of pounds. All of the animals involved have been signed over to the RSPCA, apart from 21 cats. Ms Hummer and Ms Stead were released on unconditional bail at Beverley Magistrates' Court. They will be sentenced next month. Hatty the RSPCA in york saw our problems and decided that regardless they wanted our help. Tallulah (now Hatty) was a cruelty case. Marie contacted me and Gina (bless her) travelled from East Kilbride to york and picked her up! She has been to see Taylor Vets, our shar pei vets in that area and has since put on weight and is growing back some hair. It will be a long haul for Hatty, who is roughly ten but she is safe now, well looked after and loved. Thank you Gina and thank you Marie in the York branch of the RSPCA. ( I should also tell you that this branch of the RSPCA also gave us a voucher for £100 towards her veterinary treatment)
However..... Sadly Hatty passed away from Bloat after only three weeks after living with Gina. She is really sadly missed and who knows what damage the cruelty of her past life had inflicted upon her body. Gina gave her such happiness and has broken her heart at her loss. R.I.P Hatty
********** Hi roma I volunteer at a rescue & i love your name & shame page-these people are idiots & deserve it- we get similar probs where i help & it is v hard to be polite to some people who are obviously lieing or just plain stupid & you have to wonder how they manage to get themselves dressed in the morning never mind look after a dog! Well done v brave of u i think! Liz
************************** This evening I was contacted by Mr Rob Tyler who completely disputes what I have written here. He says that Alfred was taken to a vet and that the tumour was diagnosed as gristle. He states that we must have rung the wrong vet, but his new mum found Mrs Tyler to be very uncooperative when it came to obtaining vets records etc. We could only contact the vet who's number we had been given. He also said that when Alfred went to his new home the leg was not as swollen or filled with puss and why was I not suspecting the ‘new' person who took him on, of neglect. I categorically know that that Alfred went to his new home with his leg in the terrible state that the pictures show, because the pictures were sent to me the same day that he went to his new home. Mr Tyler insisted that he loved Alfred, which I do not doubt, however we were left to deal with Mrs Tyler who was uncooperative and very definitely didn't feel the same way about Alfred. I have emails to prove that. In view of his call I have asked him to supply his vet's records and will print an apology if I am wrong. Poor Alfred! Robert & Melanie Tyler. Email address: robmeltyler@hotmail.co.uk Catterick Garrison,North Yorksire
At first everything seemed good at his new home, however recently I received a rather curt email from the lady of the house, insisting I remove him??? Apparently Alfred suffered from separation anxiety and though I was persistent in my attempts to get them to train him out of it…they didn't. This obviously cost them money and grief. I found it very hard to communicate with the wife and she seemed one minute to say she loved the dog and had just had a knee jerk reaction to another incident and then she would switch saying he had cost a fortune at the vets and that if he escaped again, I'd have to get him because she was sick of it! I was slightly baffled. At one time I had six dogs and lived next to a dual carriageway….none of mine ever escaped? Finally it was decided that he would come back to me for re-homing. Neither a piece on his character was forthcoming or any new photographs. I was told that he had a small lump on his back leg and that the vet was treating this with injections. Alfred went to his new home…and was dead within two weeks! The ‘little lump' was an horrendous lump of puss and prevented him from walking properly. When I contacted his previous vet who had supposedly been treating it, I was told that they had only ever seen the dog once for vaccinations, when they got him? Alfred would probably have had to be put to sleep anyway, but he could have died pain free and with love. I just hope that when they get fed up with their kids, they don't start neglecting them too?
Alfred
I picked up Alf Sat 10 th July, on first impression he was skittish and nervous and not reassured by his owner. I asked what the lump was and Mel said he had got it from lying in the sun and was being treated by cortisone injection. I was worried by the state of his leg and it was not what I was expecting, the lump was massive, prevented him from walking properly and had open sores on it. I sent pictures of his leg to Roma straight away to ask for advice as to what I could do to make it better before taking him to the vet. He also came with an open sore from where his harness had rubbed and a dry bald patch on his back. I was told that the bald patch was a lot larger when they had taken him on.Rob rang me over the weekend and said he would send the vets details ASAP and ring when he was abroad in a couple of week's time. I chased up the vets details by texting Mel and received them later in the week. When they arrived I only got a vaccination card and an invoice from a vet in Norfolk regarding a vaccination and check up. I rang the vets to see what they had treated Alfred for when he was there and was informed that he was only vaccinated at the practice. I contacted Mel and asked her what the last vets had treated Alf for but she said they had given him the same treatment as the one in Norfolk. Initially Alf let me bathe his leg in salt water, but this really distressed him the lump really bothered him and had taken over his life. He spent the whole day licking it and took himself off to do this, withdrawing from socialising. It was also constantly weeping and very messy. He seemed off it and stopped eating his food and had a temperature, I took him to the vets on Sat 16 th July and he was given an injection and treated for an infection. The vet was concerned with his leg and made an appointment for him to see the skin specialist. He then was continually sick and I was unable to given him his antibiotics and took him back to the vets on 17 th July, when the vet and Roma made the decision to put him to sleep. The vet believed he would have had the lump for around a year; she had never seen anything like it and thought it was a deep rooted infection that wouldn't clear up or cancer. Hi Roma Two of our dogs have been murdered:Ceri Dunkley of Barry, Vale of Glamorgan, 07525663780 email: cdnkly@msn.com
Ms Dunkley initially agreed to adopt these boys but had doubts because of the usual settling period a rescue dog needs. The dogs had had a fight. Dogs fighting IS distressing, however in their previous homes, fighting was never mentioned but I gave advice on how to stop this. Over Easter she sent an email but didn't ring me ( She had both my home phone and my mobile numbers). I had offered to remove one dog to relieve the tension, however she did not want this. This was her last email sent on 6 th /4/10 : Hi Roma,
I responded immediately but I could not get hold of her by phone. I left messages for her to contact me immediately and asked for 7 days in which to move them. Within 3 days I had secured homes. I tried endlessly to contact her. She was telephoned by a volunteer to avoid using my number. The lady explained why she was phoning and offered help. She told this person that she would phone back. She never did. Since then I have learned that she attempted to put these dogs in a shelter, but refused to pay the fee. She also called the police and said they were 'dangerous and putting her children at risk'. Finally she called the dog warden and signed documentation stating that she was the legal owner of both dogs. She paid to have both dogs destroyed, without any attempt at contacting me. Both dogs were chipped in my name. This was done on the 4 th April TWO days before she contacted me to say she could no longer keep the dogs? Ms Dunkley refused all contact with me and the dogs were destroyed on the 8 th of April, by which time I had a home for both dogs. We have requested and will be given all copies of the reports logged by the various dog wardens who dealt with Ms Dunkley, the police report and copies of the documentation she signed stating that she was the legal owner. Under the circumstances, we are deciding whether to take a civil action against Ms Dunkley. We can not bring the dogs back, but we can send a message.
Lloyd
Towards the end of last year I was contacted by Sue Morrissey (ladysusan@fsmail.net) enquiring if her son could adopt a shar pei from us. This is what she said about us in the past: Sue Morrisey : We are all well, and Jake is the most affable dog. He is getting more loveable every day and he is so-o-o-o well behaved. Thank you so much for everthing you have done for us. My dream has been to own a Shar-Pei, and thanks to your rescue service, I finally have my Jake. It is like finding my soulmate. You give so much, yet ask so little in return, I don't know how you do it, but I am very glad you do. There are so many that see these dogs and think "money",it's reassuring to know there are people like you who think "Welfare". Jake and I owe you a debt of gratitude that can never be repaid, so thank you, and keep doing what you do. Shar-Pei Rescue and Welfare UK is a much needed service. Her son is: Sam Morrissey. Folkstone , Kent . Telephone 07932698076, 07932698016. Email: street@fsmail.net. He also has a Facebook page. I made the mistake of allowing them to have the address where the dog was, before receiving paperwork. I take responsibility for this and in view of the problems caused by Mrs Morrissey and her family, will never do this again. Without notifying me they collected the dog. Neither person contacted me to say that they had the dog and when I did discover this, Mr Sam Morrissey appeared to be reluctant to contact me. My emails and texts requesting paperwork were ignored. I wasn't asking for the registration fee or donation I just wanted paperwork. I discovered that despite being told that Mr Morrissey was unable to contact me because of a broken phone, a lack of internet access etc, he was in contact with the previous owner of Lloyd, and had uploaded pictures of the dog on Facebook. This when he had no access to a computer? I threatened to remove the dog and a volley of emails and texts went backwards and forwards. Mr Morrissey told the previous owner that he had paid the donation and sent back all paperwork, this was a lie. Here, word for word is the text he sent the previous owner: 'Yeah got paperwork and all that. Ma mum sent her the 85 quid she wanted but now she is saying Dat ders bin no contact wen ma mum has spoken to her lots. I will fight her all the way over Lloyd. She comes across very money grabbin. I'll keep you posted x' . Here is a text he sent to me: 'It's not your dog it's mine and ******* is more den happy wiv my family havin him. Do not talk to me like a child im 23 years old and u have no right to speak to anyone the way u have. At the end of the day if I had not taken Lloyd he was goin wiv a stranger off the street. So I suggest u take 5 to realise im a human being and I'm best for Lloyd. Im gonna contact you through mum because the way you have handled this is not exceptable'. He had never sent back the paperwork, his mum had never sent me any money and he had never tried to contact me anyway? However, for the good of the dog I ate humble pie, apologised and sent the paperwork twice by recorded delivery, only to receive it back minus any registration fee or donation. At the end of April 2010, I was again trying to instigate contact. I had not received any money but Sam insisted that his mother was responsible for any monies. She denied this. After continually badgering both parties for money, I received a text from Sam Morrissey saying that they would have to give Lloyd up? Apparently, quote: 'He pisses and shits all over the house even though he is taken out 5/6 times a day '...WHO takes their dogs out five and six times a day? Who has time? I quickly found a home for Lloyd. An honest, kind loving home where he will be walked regularly, fed, cuddled and respected. He won't be used as a status symbol and his new owners will pay for him so that we can save other dogs. Mr Morrissey declined to help in anyway to get Lloyd to his new home and nobody from the family were prepared to help either. Thankfully Lloyd's new daddy got fed up with all the excuses and demands of this family and drove all the way from Blackpool to Folkstone. I can not thank them enough. He is now settling well in his new home. His new mum and dad say that despite a cut on his leg and being underweight he is a very well behaved dog and perfectly housetrained. Sadly, the lesson this has taught me is that I shouldn't trust people, not even those I think I know.
Mia And BearMrs Ann Ronaldson of: Bradville, Milton Keynes. Email ronaldsonja@aol.com . Tel: 07761376562 Another Problem!!! Until recently I was still desperately trying to find an amicable conclusion to this story, however I have at last received £90.00 for TWO dogs and paperwork signed and returned. This couple contacted me to be able to adopt two dogs. I spoke with the husband and they seemed very experienced dog people (though not with Shar Pei) and were so keen that I received two adoption forms, one by email, the other by post. One of the problems I find, is that people just do not read what they are signing, however having filled in a form twice one would assume that the conditions of adoption were understood? The first problem was that the male dog (unbeknown to me. His form stated differently) had not been neutered. We try to get all of our dogs neutered before re-homing, however our paperwork does state that if this is not the case, the new adopter will take on the cost as well as provide a donation. I asked the lady to arrange castration which she did, quoting me £260 for the operation. I was shocked and contacted the vet myself. I was informed that as the dog was a rescue, it had actually cost £75.00. We always try to stay in contact when somebody first adopts and it wasn't long before problems arose with the male dog showing aggression to members of the family. I discussed the problem with the wife and arranged for a volunteer to visit, to see if the problem could be sorted. Dogs take at least six months to settle properly in their new home. I believed this was the case so offered help. Strangely, these problems emerged when I asked for adoption paperwork to be signed and an adoption fee paid. In a later telephone conversation Ann Ronaldson stated that she did not want to keep the dogs and did not like the continuous attention from the previous owner, but was going to discuss it with her husband. Biting is a serious issue and when she failed to come back to me, I telephoned her. I spoke with her husband and a completely different picture emerged. He stated that the dogs were settling well, despite a few minor hiccups, they were truly loved and that they were definitely keeping both dogs? He also said that his wife was also constantly contacting the previous owner herself and laughed saying that it just wasn't an issue. My volunteer continued to visit and helped to settle the dogs. It was suggested that if they could not cope with both dogs, one could be removed. She put in place some boundaries, however no donation or adoption paperwork was forthcoming. I phoned again. This time Ann said that she had wished she'd never heard of Shar Pei Rescue and Welfare UK, that she felt that I talked down to her and that she was shocked that I could even suggest separating the dogs????? Sadly when people fail to pay for a dog they invariably become aggressive in some way and attack either myself or Neill. It is the dogs that matter, so I asked if personal feelings could be placed on one side and we could come to some arrangement concerning the dogs. I then received an email. In it Ann said that she would pay £90.00 for both dogs, but that she had read the adoption paperwork and was not prepared to sign it. She felt the dogs belonged to her and not to the rescue. The reason ALL rescues retain ownership of their dogs is to protect them from abuse, being passed around etc. She had thoroughly read adoption paperwork; but had failed to read the questionnaire stating that it was her responsibility to neuter? We did finally receive both paperwork and £90.00.but why did we have to work so hard to get it?
It never fails to worry me; that when a person fails in their agreement with the rescue it is somehow our fault? PLEASE make sure it is not your name or details shown on this page. We have thought long and hard about publishing these details, however, we felt that for all those who DO pay for their dogs, in many ways it was only fair, but we do want your input....what do you think. Should we name and shame? By publishing peoples details, will people be sensible, if choosing to contact them with an opinion, refrain from using bad language? ....We hope so Hi Roma & Neill, Firstly I would like to praise the wonderful work you do for these wonderful dogs! I have recently been looking around your website and reading all about you and what you do. I have now read your name and shame page and as you said you would welcome comments I thought I would like to give you some feedback. I agree totally with what you have decided to do. I have myself been considering adoption, I am not near reaching a decision, yet I have already read through your questionnaire and terms as I believe this is all part of the research process. If I decided to go ahead and register I would be fully aware of what to expect, you state clearly your terms and expectations and it's sad to read how things can go so wrong and turn nasty when at the heart of this is good people acting for the good of this amazing breed. As the owner of 2 shar pei whom I love dearly I welcome your name and shame page because if it helps in the future to prevent one act of cruelty or one donation being refused then I say you are doing the right thing. Keep up the wonderful work, if you ever set up at a local show I would love to bring my shar pei along to meet you! Kindest regards, Louise (Cheshire) p.s. I am happy for my comments to be published
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